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QAV AU 908
Cameron: [00:00:00] Welcome to QAV Australia, episode nine 908. 24th of February, 2026. Yes, tk. I have a new look.
Tony: Breaking Kings Cross.
Cameron: Yeah, but no, but the,
Tony: it’s boy’s Mardi Gras week this week.
Cameron: the thing is, Donny, when I put these glasses on, I start to talk like Michael Kane. I have to. I have to say you’re only supposed to blow the bloody doors off Tony.
Tony: You do
Cameron: No,
Tony: You do look like Michael. claim with those glasses.
Cameron: that’s why I bought the glasses, Tony. ’cause I watched the I Crest fo and I said I want some sixties glasses. Big, big Michael Kane sixties glasses. But I have to talk like this when I have these glasses
on.
Tony: I, I I get lots of clips from Michael Kane on my streams now. Interesting. One last
night. So, you know, he was born [00:01:00] in an area called the Elephant and Castle
after a pub called the Elephant and Castle.
Cameron: I did not know that.
Tony: Yeah.
But, and it’s a cockney area, but the history of that is that it’s actually named after Charles. Must be Charles ii. What’s Charles now? King Charles ii. Oh. Anyway, the current king, the last king that was called Charles, had a mistress called the, who was nicknamed the Castelli infant party. So the, and that’s where the area was named after, but no one gave a damn about that. And they
changed it from Castilian F Elephant and
Castle. That’s
why the pub is called the Elephant and Castle
Cameron: Right.
Tony: after
the Charles II’s Mistress
Cameron: Wow.
Tony: Hmm.
Cameron: Wow. I’m already getting slow. Upload messages from your end. Tony
Tony: no.
you know, blame me, Elon, because I’m
using starlink. It’s,
Cameron: Eon,
Tony: me I’m good.
Cameron: damnit Eon. [00:02:00]
Tony: Yeah,
Cameron: Well, Tony, um, got a lot to talk about this week. I have a lot of notes. It is reporting season. We didn’t have a lot to buy last week. I did have about
seven or eight stocks today when I ran a new buy list. I think there was four yesterday, five or six today, although one of them was. Rex or Reg or something.
But then when I went to check it, it was actually a Josephine, so
had to scrap that. But um, it’s starting to, starting to pick up, starting to get some reports out.
Tony: I am finding that too, not only are they volatile, but we are getting more numbers
into the Stock Doctor now. So my B is, today was longer than what it has been for
a while.
Cameron: I gotta start by, well. I, I actually, I’ll stop by doing a portfolio update. Let me do that. Um, portfolios have been going well. Uh, I did the light summary [00:03:00] yesterday for the light group for the last 30 days. It was only up about 1% versus the index up two and a half. But, uh. The week before I had said that the best stock in the live portfolios for the previous 30 days was Southern Cross Electrical Engineering SXE.
It was up 13% for the month. When I checked yesterday, it was still the best stock for the month, but it was up 42% for the month.
Tony: I’m, I’m guessing it had good results. it did have good results and for once good results actually helped and didn’t make it go down as we often see. Um, yeah, 42% when its results came out and, uh, that we, we have two holdings of it, which were up respectively, 318% and 340%. Since we’ve held them, so, uh, good, good job. Southern Cross. I dunno what you’re doing, but good job.
Cameron: Uh, the light portfolio is up 20 Oh no, is up 40% for the [00:04:00] last 12 months versus the index up 13. And since inception it’s up 22 versus 11.
Tony: Mm-hmm.
Cameron: Um, so that’s doing all right. Uh, the dummy portfolio, let’s have a look at that. For the last 30 days, the dummy portfolio is down 1% versus the index up 2%.
Best return in the last 30 days in the dummy portfolio is PPM Pepper money.
Are they being acquired or something? At the moment? Isn’t challenger
Tony: they’ll
Cameron: our stock of the day?
Tony: pulled pork today.
Cameron: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Uh, they’re down a little bit. They’re, but they’re up 15% in the last month as a result of that.
But for the last 12 months, the dummy portfolio is up 30% versus 13% for the index. Oh my. That’s crazy. [00:05:00]
Um, this financial year dummy portfolio is up 23% versus eight, and if I do sort of last five years, the dummy portfolio is up 16.5% versus 9.6.
Not quite double. It’s come down a little bit in the last month or so, but still. Doing okay, Tony. And what I hear from the members. Everyone’s portfolios are doing great. Everyone’s happy. Happy little q AAVs.
Tony: See ya. I’m off
to the golf course.
Cameron: Jordan has built a regression testing script, which he’s been sending me all this stuff and I, every time I try and read through it, it just gives me a headache. So I’m like, ah, I’ll put it off and do it later, and I never get around to it. I sent him an email this morning saying, look, sorry. Uh, I haven’t got into this.
It’s just too much and too heavy and too deep, and I got too much other stuff on and he [00:06:00] sent me a great response. Hey Cam, to be honest, I spent the last week making a ranking system using the data from the report and ran a test overnight, and it seemed to just produce market results. Market returns. So at the moment I’ve learned nothing and it may just be noise.
So far, pretty much all of the tests I have run produce QAV or worse results. I had one test that was 5% better CGA than QAV, but I don’t necessarily think this is repeatable in the real world and may have just been a quirk of the way it’s selected stock. So I need to investigate it further, but I’m not hopeful.
I’ll try to get around to writing a summary of what I found at some point and pass it over to you. I will summarize it. Tony’s done a great job creating QAV, and it’s really hard to find tweaks to improve it. Thanks.
Tony: Uh, that’s the old, uh, evolution, beatings beating science. Is it that, uh,
it’s
evolved to be the optimal?
Cameron: Well, you know, I just think you have done a really good job. I mean, I said to him, I expect that we’ll have super intelligent AI at some point, and I’ll say, have a look at this. And [00:07:00] it’ll go, eh, it’s pretty good. You know, really, it’s, it’s doing pretty good.
Tony: Yeah. I’m still trying to do regression testing for
The growth over PE changes. So if,
Cameron: The gr.
Tony: a back testing that can
help with that, that’d be
great.
Cameron: Well, I wanna ask you a,
oh, sorry. Go on.
Tony: devoting an hour in here and there, but I’m really
only getting through a couple of transactions
Cameron: Yeah,
Tony: So, yeah, it’s just really
slow.
Cameron (4): Wheat.
Tony: Mm-hmm.
Cameron (4): Wheat.
Tony: crop.
Cameron (4): I was, um, having a look at the wheat commodity chart, the wheat cell line, and wasn’t quite, wasn’t quite sure how to track it. Now when I go into trading economics, it won’t let me, uh, even open the bloody thing. Um.
Tony: So we’re looking at lines of wheat.
Cameron (4): Wheat lines blowing through my mind and all the while I think of [00:08:00] you. You know this song, white Lines Grandma Flash and The Furious Five. Come on man. What? Uh, okay.
Tony: them. I
just dunno that song.
Cameron (4): White lines. Ah, classic. Duran Duran did a cover of it in the eighties, nineties, two thousands maybe. So if you look at the, um, monthly thing for the wheat thing, uh, the wheat chart.
Tony: he sound like Roddy.
Cameron (4): Yeah, I know
Tony: with him. I have to request pronouns.
Cameron (4): Uh, so the low, the, the trough for wheat is December, 2025. Um, 507 USDA bushel. And then the line goes straight up from there, uh, to, um, February 26th of 5 81. So, I mean, I can, if I go back in time, typically what I’ll do when I’m drawing my three point trend lines in my coating these days is if there’s no.
Easy line to [00:09:00] draw if, if the trough, the lowest trough is The most recent trough and is there’s no easy second trough or even second month to draw a cell line through. You see, if you drew one from this, it just goes straight up the price line anyway, which is, kind of pointless if you go back in time and try and find a previous cell line.
It’s also difficult ’cause the price has been coming down for the last few years. So I have had this down as a sell because I think it’s been declining and it hasn’t really broken through. When you have a look at this, how would you evaluate wheat?
Tony: The problem is, I can’t look at it like, uh, it’s, I’m getting a weekly graph right now. If
I need, if
I go to monthly, it asks me to log in.
Cameron (4): All right, well, yeah. Let me, um, give you a
Tony: if I look at, if I look at the weekly graph, um, there’s a, a trough as you said, but in the, in a, in the following weeks, there’s a second cell line.
[00:10:00] So you can draw a
line and it’s above, price is above that, but, um, we normally
use monthly
rather than weekly.
Cameron (4): I’m gonna, uh, share my screen with you so you can see what I’m seeing.
Tony: Yep. Good.
Cameron (4): Can you see that?
Tony: Yeah, I can,
Cameron (4): So that’s the monthly chart. Um. You can see the, uh, this is the lowest point here, December. It just goes straight up. It goes straight up from there. So it’s picking up, it’d be above its byline if I draw a byline down here, but I, I struggle to draw a cell line for this, so I wanted to get your thoughts on it.
Tony: Um, yeah. Good, good question. I, I
think it’s above its spy line, so I’d say it’s a buy and we treat, I would treat it as
being on
cell line, but not below it.
Cameron (4): You’d just draw the cell line, straight up there.
Tony: yeah. Yep. But I also think, uh,
a good question. I would,
Cameron (4): Hmm.
Tony: we’ve got [00:11:00] another one, but no
L two,
haven’t we?
Cameron (4): Unless we go back. Into a retrospective cell line, and then it’s, gonna be, even that’s gonna be difficult because, you know, you can’t really draw one, out of September 25 either or there, like the, they, it.
the troughs keep getting lower And lower all the way down here. Maybe July 24.
Tony: Yeah. Okay. I was gonna say even back to the
left hand
side of the graft before the
peak.
Cameron (4): Right, right.
Tony: Yeah.
Cameron (4): If I drew it from July 24, it might be above that, But, You know it, it would’ve breached it here. I don’t know. It’s kind of messy.
Tony: the way I do it is you’ve got L one,
which is December 25.
You’ve got
a month after that,
Cameron (4): Yeah,
Tony: kind of L two,
Cameron (4): yeah. You just draw it straight up. Yeah.
Tony: Yeah.
Cameron (4): It’s a bit of a Schrodinger, I think kind of It’s sort of above the byline kind of below or on the cell line.
Tony: Mm
Cameron (4): I’m not sure there’s any wheat stocks on that buy list anyway, that it matters. I [00:12:00] just thought I’d ask. Alright. Enough of that nonsense.
Alright, well okay with that.
Um, what else have I got here? Where’s my notes? Too many screens open.
Tony: Yeah, same. I’m closing all
mine down
this because of the, uh, drain on the
Cameron (4): all, you’re all pixelated here.
Tony: Oh.
Cameron (4): NWH, another good report. It jumped up. Everyone was happy about that. Um, Parenti on the other hand, came out with its results, dropped at least 13%. Might have been a little bit more than that. Um, did you have a look at the NWH or the PRN results in any detail?
Tony: I didn’t look at NWH, but I, I own
Parenti, so I had a look at them in detail. Um,
interesting. I dunno what it’s done
today. Have you seen what the share price has
done today?
Cameron (4): Yeah, it’s continued. Continue to drop today. Yeah. [00:13:00] 2 33 It is today? ’
Tony: Okay. Okay. So my take on the profit was it wasn’t too bad. So, uh, profit was up 12%.
I think what people are focusing on is two things. Revenue was reasonably flat compared to the first half last year. Uh, they’ve done some good things. They’ve reduced their debt, they’ve increased their dividends, so the numbers aren’t too bad. I think what’s happening is this business, even though it’s known as a drilling services in the mining sector, uh, ’cause it’s done a lot of rollups with drilling companies.
It’s basically about 70% a contract miner at the moment. And, so it’s got these contracts to run and operate mines and there’s a few in South Africa. Oh, sorry. In, in West Africa, um, it’s expanding into the US as well. Uh, it’s got a couple in Australia, but they’re largely locked in revenue, so there’s not much, unless they pick up a new mine contract, uh, [00:14:00] or lose a mine contract, there’s not much change in revenue, um, year on year.
So that’s what I think is happening is that even though it’s, uh, steady as she goes, the, the business, the analysts are saying, well, where’s the growth? The growth is in the drilling side, which continues to increase. Um, but that’s only about a quarter of the business now, so it’s really gotta increase a lot to move the, move the dial and then the other, so the five to 10% is mining tech, uh, services, which is also growing.
But again, it’s a very small part of the business, about 5%. the other thing that’s hurting this company is that a lot of their contracts, because they’re international, are done in US dollars and the US dollar is dropping, uh, against the Australian dollar anyway. So when. Repatriate, um, income into Australia, they’re losing a little bit because of appreciating Australian dollar.
Um, sounds like they’re unhedged on that basis. Uh, so they did, they did the conservative thing and they updated their guidance and, um, [00:15:00] dropped the top end a little bit. Um, which I think has spooked the market, but, uh, hasn’t spooked me because Parenti has got a history of, um, over promising, or sorry, under-promising and over delivering. so last year they said that the FY 26 revenue will be between 3.45 and 3.65 billion. The, at the latest half results, they’ve updated that to be between 3.45 and 3.55 billion. So no change to the bottom and just a slight change, a decrease to the top. because of their worry about, um, this differential in the US dollar to Australian dollar conversion. Um, and likewise with EBIT guidance, they’ve dropped it from a range of 3 35 to three 55 million, down to 3 35 to three 50 million. So again, not much of a, not much of a change to the range. Um, and you know, I don’t know why analysts were factoring in the top end into their models anyway, you’d normally factor [00:16:00] your me the median of that range into models. Uh, but for some reason people haven’t liked that change to guidance and they’ve sold the stock. But look, everything else looks good to me. It’s a cash generating business. It’s got long-term contracts to run mines. It’s got the drilling business, which is surging. It’s got the tech business, which is nascent. Um. You know, they’re for, even though they’ve, um, forecast down, uh, slight downgrades at the top, at the top end of revenue and ebit, they’re, they’re increasing free cashflow guidance, um, from being 160 million to $170 million, um, in FY 26. So I’m not seeing any big movements that would spook me. Um, they’ve decreased debt, they’ve increased dividends. Um, they’re, they’ve decreased CapEx a little bit, so, um, they’re actually called out their forecast a decrease in CapEx that was being forecast at $340 million spend, and now it’s $325 million spend. So all of those things are gonna help cash [00:17:00] flow, operating cash flow, and free cash flow. So I think it’s still a good company with low debt and large cash flows.
Um, continue, I’m continuing to hold it, um, and I’m gonna watch for any contract mining wins, which seems to be the big things that move, guidance for this com for this company.
Cameron (3): Mm. Okay, so you’re not concerned.
No
gnashing of teeth. No gnashing of teeth.
Tony: as Dave Allen would say.
Cameron (3): Dave Allen said gnashing of teeth.
Tony: Yeah, the yeah. The old sketch where he, he pretends to be Reverend Paisley. There’ll be a protest in Belfast and there’ll be gnashing of teeth.
Cameron (3): Uh, good old Dave Allen. My mom sends me a Dave Allen clip at least once every couple of months.
Tony: Mm. Flashback to our childhood.
Mm-hmm. Um, the only other thing I had to talk about, Tony was, uh, AFR article. I saw the hidden cost of the passive [00:18:00] investing boom. Jonathan Shapiro, I know this is one of your favorite talking points,
Cameron (3): the size of the passive funds.
He says, in tough times, act of fund managers have to stick together. And that’s precisely what a trio of the world’s top funds are doing in this week in Sydney, Melbourne, and Auckland. Bailey, Gifford, MFS, and Aus, who oversee around $1.5 trillion of assets. It’s nearly as big as your portfolio, a hosting of their third joint gathering in six years to promote the virtues of active management.
The theme of the active Advantage forum is total beyond the benchmark and is taking place at a time and place where the benchmark is in danger of eating everything. For the past 10 years, stock pickers have lost the active versus passive debate as beating the market has proved challenging for the industry in aggregate.
But in the past five years, Australia has become the land of the benchmark due to the your future, your super regime. The introduction of performance testing [00:19:00] has meant the industry in aggregate has deemed it too risky to fall behind its targets, and so they’ve tethered hundreds of billions of dollars of capital to the appropriate share and bond indices.
The virtues of low-cost index investing have well and truly been proven, and the introduction of performance tests to weed out underperforming superannuation funds has largely worked. But warnings are growing that this benchmark driven industry is creating unintended consequences for the market and superannuation members.
In short, nobody wants this. I’m not sure about this. Uh, they’ve weeded out underperforming superannuation funds. Every time I look at the rankings, they’re all underperforming except two or three.
Dunno,
Tony: Well, they all have to have, um, an
offering now, which, uh, to a default offering, which can be benchmarked against. Um, this my right? um, listing. So it has
resulted, I think, I think from memory though, the bottom 5% have to show how they can improve or be tossed, um, close down or merge with [00:20:00] somebody else.
Cameron (3): Wow. So it has, it has,
Tony: achieved results at the bottom end. But Yeah.
it’s, it’s, even the active managers now are like, as we said, they, they find it hard to be the benchmark because basically they’re trying to hug the benchmark, but in like, eek out two or 3% beat, um, and try and stay on their bad years, two or 3% below Yeah. they can hold onto funds.
Because
as we know
from QAV, um, history, it’s if you want to, um, not care about the benchmark and just care about making money, uh, you’ll have years where you’ve underperformed. You’ll have a lot of years where you’ve outperformed, and over time you’ll massively outperform. But if you’re in the, if you’re in, um, the public space and you are having a bad year, you’ll lose, um, fund you’ll have funds, redemption.
So that’s the Yeah, Um. Um, I, we’ve created
all the benefits of
index investing and low cost ETFs, um, they’ve created [00:21:00] this monster where, uh, people won’t write out a bad half or a bad quarter for an active manager. They’ll just take their money yeah. And it’s
also, there are other other unintended, other unintended consequences going on because there’s a lot of people, um, taking their money out of, uh, industry funds and, and retail funds, so large funds and putting them into self-managed super fund portfolios, which they’re managing themselves, which is good
unless they dunno what they’re yeah,
and then you have the first guardian and
shield problems where they’re listening to bad advice. Um, and even though they were getting benchmark returns in a large fund, they’ve lost a lot of money by doing it themselves and listening to bad advice. So there, there are un unintended consequences in what’s going on too.
Cameron (3): share of Australian market cap, and it’s goes over the last 10 years. Back in 2015, it looks like it was about 6.57%. Today it looks like it’s 19%, [00:22:00]
uh, is in passive funds. That’s
crazy. In 10 years.
Tony: Yeah. If it keeps crying at that rate, what happens? I mean, eventually, look, I, oh, it’s. I guess you only need one active manager to set the price, don’t you? To, to be able to say, I’ve just had these results announced and therefore I’m gonna buy BHP or sell BHP or Parenti or whatever. Um, and then the passive funds follow as the index rate needs to rebalance.
But, um, you know, if, if that person’s being squeezed out of the market because they’ve had a bad half and people are redeeming, then who, who sets the price index funds can’t set the price.
Cameron (3): Hmm.
Tony: All they can do is follow the price, follow momentum.
So
that’s, that’s an issue. Um, I, I suspect that, you know, it’ll, it’ll arrive itself.
That, education will hopefully improve that people will know they’ve got two choices, um, index or passive funding, in which case they get market returns and don’t, don’t complain and, um, Or go into active managers, [00:23:00] but be aware of volatility and you just have to, you know, shut your eyes when you, the, the manager you like has a, a call to where they’ve Or the market splits between people and passive funds and QAV subscribers.
Yeah. Well, you know, I think that’s exactly what should happen. But you know, you, you, you know, from our history that, um, as soon as we, uh, have a, a bad half, you know, people give us all sorts of excuses while they want to, uh, cease being a subscriber.
Cameron (3): Even though we tell them every week when the, when things aren’t going well,
just stick with the system. Stick with the rules. It’s okay.
Tony: yep. still panic. Um, Yeah. he start, he finishes this thing by saying the free market purists might argue that the system will take care of itself. I should be doing this as Michael Kane.
Cameron (3): I dunno why I’m not a Darwinian hopeful to get into, get into character. Only supposed to blow. Yeah, that’s it. [00:24:00] The free market purists might argue that the system will take care of itself. Tony. A Darwinian purge of the weakest activist managers will leave the strong ones, the Feast Off, the Abundant opportunities created by I Volatility and a price agnostic and price agnostic passive investors.
But then the question is where the super funds will find themselves on the wrong side of the trade. Some people, Tony, just wanna see the World Burn
Tony: Yeah,
Cameron (3): Master Wayne. if you are doing Michael, if, yeah, I was
Tony: gonna say, if you’re doing Michael Wayne.
that makes me Batman.
Cameron (3): Yeah, that’s okay. Yeah, that tracks.
Tony: Yeah. Um, yeah, it’s interesting, isn’t it? I actually think what might happen is something like QAV, where if you are an active manager, You’ll disappear from the public view, which is what happens in the us You look at Renaissance Capital and people like that, they don’t give a toss about [00:25:00] retail shareholders.
They’ll just take, um, their networks of people who know that they’re a good investor and take their money and say, well, you can’t redeem it for five years and give it to me and I’ll give you two or three times Mm. You know, your money in the Like Buffett in the early days. Berkshire.
Cameron (3): Yeah. Yeah. exactly. money
Tony: how and then just
Cameron (3): don’t talk to me for 10 years.
Tony: Yeah. And look, you know, Bitcoin’s a really good example of the, of what might happen with passive investing in the stock market if it gets too big, And it may already be too big now in that, uh, if, if, you know, CommBank, comes out with a bad result, but it’s, it’s not that bad, but the shares go down 1% and Comm Bank’s the biggest share in the index.
So all the passive followers have to sell CommBank to, you know, rebalance their portfolios by 1% that sell off. CommBank down 2%, it just becomes an amplification of the momentum in the market. And get these wild swings that you can’t explain [00:26:00] because it’s just passive investing, having to follow the momentum.
And it’ll become an amplifying of both uptrends and downtrends, which is not And how does that impact QAV long term?
Gives us better buying opportunities. ’cause,
because if just like, just like
now, as we’ve said with, with some fund managers, a lot of fund managers who are tied to a mandate, you know, I’ve gotta, I’ve gotta be a, um, a value manager. I’ve gotta be a growth manager, I’ve gotta be an international manager. I’ve gotta be a, know, um, a top 300 manager or whatever.
Um, they’re boxed in. Um, if they can’t find they’ve gotta try and maximize what’s available, which, which, um, you know, whenever someone’s boxing against you with one hand tied behind the back, it creates an opportunity for us as, um, investors to take the other side and benefit from it.
Cameron (3): Sorry, I’ve been watching too much. Paul Lind on Hollywood Squares. Do you, do you remember Paul Lind?
Tony: I do. Yeah. I went through
I, that’s, that’s God. Sorry,
Cameron (3): so I was just gonna Mabb [00:27:00] make another King’s Cross
well after you said, tied to a mandate. I had Paul Lind in my head going, I got tied to a mandate once, took me hours to get him to untangle me. Um, I
I was watching. Bye bye birdie. So over the weekend I watched Viva Las Vegas. On SBS and I was like, oh, I haven’t seen anything else that Ann Margaret did in the sixties and Byebye birdie’s on SBS.
So I started, I’d never seen that, so I started watching it.
Um, no, it’s terrible, but Paul Lind,
Tony: never oh, it’s terrible. But Paul Lin’s in it as her father and I, and I was saying to Chrissy, oh my god, Paul Lind, I loved him in the seventies.
Cameron (3): And he did all these voices on animated shows, and he was in, he was Uncle Arthur and Bewitched, but he did all he did.
It’s the wolf. And then I went and started watching, uh, it’s the Woolf from the Chattanooga Cats, the animated show in the late sixties. And then I started watching clips of him on YouTube for Hollywood [00:28:00] Squares. Mm-hmm And they’d always, you know, he was, he always had this really quick quippy, you know, answer to a question always with a do blonde tom or something in there.
And he was so quick and so funny. But then last night I was just talking like Paul Lin for hours, like in between Michael Kane and Paul Lind, I was possessed anyway. Tied to a mandate. Yeah.
Tony: With your thick black glasses and your that’s right.
Cameron (3): Blonde. Wish it was blonde. One of the kids at kung fu the, uh, the other day asked me if I’d dyed my hair.
I said, why would I dye it white? What? What’s the purpose? Would that serve any who, uh, stock pole of the week. Tony, moving right along, you suggested that we do a stock Stop of the week, a pole of the week. Pick a stock.
Tony: Yeah. I didn’t see it in the email though. Have you say
Cameron (3): I did it in the weekly email on Friday. Uh, FF
Tony: Oh, I five a total, a whole five people
Cameron (3): responded to it
Tony: What did the lucky first and you [00:29:00] weren’t even one.
Cameron (3): Um,
I
said, see it. which stock from our buy list this week do you think will be the best performer over the next 12 months? There were only two stocks in the buy list, so it was easy to pick which 2D, SK and SRV and, uh, DSK got one vote. SRV got four. Scott commented after today’s podcast listening, how can I buy DSK
’cause I was bagging on DSK.
Um, so there we go. So over the next 12 months, we’ll see. Um, there’s no winners. It’s anonymous, so you just get to know if you
were a winner or not
Tony: 12. Is 12 months the right time period? Or you would just do it for a a week. What’s the point of doing it for a week?
well, it’s just random
Cameron (3): Okay, well. and We get the results
Tony: We get the Yeah,
Cameron (3): you get to see who, who did the best over the last week. So let’s see. DS, K one week. DSK, uh, went from 98 cents to 97 cents. [00:30:00] SRV went from 98 cents. No, sorry, didn’t click on that. Went from $7 64 to $7 69.
Hey,
Tony: so four. Four of our subscribers
Cameron (3): Yeah.
it’s probably Scott that picked DSK after posting that
Tony: Yeah. himself an out.
For 80% of our subscribers are smart. Sorry, Scott. Dunno why Tony just threw you under the bus there, Scott, back to Bye bye, birdie. The crazy thing about Bye bye birdie. The whole plot of Bye bye. Birdie is based on Elvis going to Korea. Uh, it’s all about a rockstar. They call Conrad Titty, who is, um, like basically Elvis and he is, you know, been called up and he’s going off to war.
Cameron (3): And then they come up with this promotional stunt on Ed Sullivan for him to kiss one girl from the fan club as a [00:31:00] farewell present to all the girls. The film was made in, I think, 62, 63. The, the girl that the Elvis character kisses is Anne Margaret. The very next film Anne Margaret made was Viva Las Vegas with the real Elvis and they ended up having an affair for a relationship for like a year, even though he had Priscilla installed at Graceland at the time, um, with Anne Margaret.
So she went from. Playing in a film about a girl who gets a date with Elvis to actually dating Elvis the next year. So there you go. It was crazy
enough of them.
Tony: wouldn’t be the first Hollywood romance, would it
Cameron (3): No.
- But you look at the two of them in Viva Las Vegas, and you’re like, oh yeah, they were totally banging.
Oh man. yeah, Oh apparently I read that they recorded three duets for that film.
The colonel would only let the film use one out of the three because she was too [00:32:00] good and he felt that she overpowered
Elvis. She had more charisma than Elvis,
and he was like, well, we can’t have that. She’s too, she’s too good.
Oh man. She is good in that film. dancer. Oh, incredible. Everything. Dancer, singer. So much personality.
She was, oh man. Bonkers. Any who? That’s it. What do you got?
Tony: it’s hard to follow that up. Um.
Cameron (3): The stock pick of the week. Yeah, that was big. Yeah.
Tony: What,
Cameron (3): Big news. at least, at least the
Tony: result isn’t that, uh, one of us gets to kiss the winner,
Cameron (3): Well,
you ne with these glasses, Tony. You never know.
Tony: Hmm.
Cameron (3): Yeah. Uh, I
Tony: got a couple of things. Um, so I spoke last week about Mag seven stocks and how I couldn’t find depreciation on their balance sheets, even though were investing heavily in data centers and the chips that were required for ai.
Cameron (3): Yeah. [00:33:00] And so I asked I. to
Tony: look into it for me
and tell me whereabouts to,
to find it on their balance sheets.
And it said there’s no specific place for it. Um, and that it was often spread across cost of goods, r and d and admin expenses, and it wasn’t explicitly being called out. So, um, that’s what I suspected, which is not good transparent accounting. Um, but the reason for raising it again now is it covers up one important fact, and that’s that the Mag seven stocks who are getting heavy into AI are no longer capital like businesses, which is the reason why they’ve always traded so highly and, and on high PEs. They’re, they’re capital heavy businesses now, just like railroads and manufacturers. And I think when the market catches up with that, I expect them to re-rate down. So I don’t see a bright future for those stocks at all.
Cameron (3): Hmm.
Tony: And they’re
hiding the fact that they’re now no longer capital life businesses, which is even Well, they’re not really, once there’s enough
[00:34:00] pressure once
there’s enough pressure on them to call it out as exactly what they’re spending uh, CapEx and what it’s costing to the appreciate, I think there’ll be a rerating.
Cameron (3): I mean, everyone knows that they’re raising billions of hundreds of billions of dollars to build data centers out.
It’s not really a secret.
Tony: Yeah. But that’s like, so that’s the classic CEO going, look at this, we’re gonna be number one in the AI field. look at all the capital we’re spending. Don’t look at, uh, the fact that we’re like, we’re worse in a railroad now in terms of our ROE and you know, our future profit margins and all the rest of it.
But we’re gonna be number one in the Well, there’s plenty of, and eventually the market catches up there’s plenty of, talk about, I mean, people have been saying it’s an AI bubble for like a year, and there’s a lot of discussion about the fact that, you know, ChatGPT open AI is never gonna be able to generate enough revenue to make up for the amount of money that they’re spending.
Cameron (3): And you know, they just introduced ads recently into the free [00:35:00] version of ChatGPT to try and create some sort of extra revenue coming in. But yeah, I mean, yeah,
one of them’s gonna win. Uh.
Tony: Yeah. But I guess, I guess what I’m saying is that, um, the, the, wind’s gotta happen before the, the market catches up with the bad financial profiles for these companies now,
Cameron (3): Well, y you know, we know because we’ve seen this before, it only takes one hiccup for the whole house of cards for everybody to come tumbling down, and then somebody survives and they turn it into a business. Ideally. Although I think this time it’s different. Tony, oh, did you see the Allen Kohler thing that happened last week?
The AI video of Alan Kohler.
Tony: Yeah. He spoke about it on his, uh, on your money Right.
Cameron (3): That was amazing
for people who didn’t see it, and I’m sure everyone did ’cause big news, but somebody created an AI fake video of Alan Kohler and I think the CEO of the Commonwealth Bank Coman. a fight and the CEO getting up and storming off the [00:36:00] set or something. And Alan Cole, I saw him being interviewed about it on the A, B, C, and he said.
It was so realistic. Even he couldn’t tell that it wasn’t really him in the video. That’s where we’re at with
- Fake videos now. So
buckle up for election season folks.
Tony: Yeah. No one can tell what’s real anymore. Fun. Fun, fun? Mm,
Yeah. Anyway, so that was my Mag seven gripe this week. mm-hmm. one good result that came out for me, I own
QBE in my portfolio and it’s, it was up 8% of its results and uh, I think it’s still going up, so that’s Good Uh, and they announced a, uh, more than a 20% lift in profit, um, which was better than the expectations, both on the top line and the bottom line.
So premium income was growing and investment returns had also improved. So that was good job. QBE.
Cameron (3): Quibi.
Tony: Insurance company. And the last thing I’ve got is a pulled pork [00:37:00] on Challenger, to be called Challenger. just called Challenger.
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