Quick Reference Guide by Topic
Where to go in the back-catalogue when you want to hear Tony and Cameron cover a specific topic. Click any episode to open it.
How to calculate a sell line when a company is ex-dividend
See the Checklist Walkthrough — Column H covers the ex-dividend sell-line adjustment.
Dividend Reinvestment Plans
“Well, we’ve spoken about this before, but just a summary. I always take the cash rather than reinvest because I use the cash to pay off my costs, particularly borrowing costs. But they’re also the other costs of running a portfolio that people need to defray, like your accountancies, any tax you have to pay. And that brings me to the point that if people do want to do a DRP, they might want to do it partially because they will have to pay tax on the dividend, which is seen as income. So, if they reinvest a hundred percent of the dividend and they’ve got no cash to pay for the tax, that’s got to come from outside the portfolio. So that’s another thing. And generally, if I was going to use a DRP, I’d be looking for some kind of discount which is usually the case. But some companies don’t do it. So, yeah. So, if you don’t have any costs or if you’re funding your cost from outside your portfolio, then sure.”
Tony Kynaston [50:10]
If Tony needs cash, how does he decide what to sell?
- Sell losses first.
- What I’m trying to do is avoid selling something and having a capital gains tax liability against that sale.
- Then sell the ones which are trending down even in the short term.
- Then probably sell the ones which don’t pay dividends.
- Then something with a lower QAV score.
- For more, see Episode 413, timecode 00:53:36
How does Tony weigh / balance his portfolio?
- S01E28 – How To Structure A Portfolio
- S03E24 – The Schrödinger (around the 27′ mark)
Tony’s thoughts on index funds
How to work out the most undervalued Top 10 stock
If you are starting to build a new portfolio from scratch
How to find financial data without a Stock Doctor subscription
How to replicate the Stock Doctor Star Stock rating
- S01E04 – Analysing Telstra (starts around the 16 minute mark)
Find the data you’ll need on the Reuters Finance “Key Metrics” page (here’s a link for their Telstra page).
When does Tony sell a stock?
How long does Tony hold onto a stock that isn’t going up?
- S03E31 – Deworsification (around the 31:22 mark)
How to use the different Buy & Sell order types
How to use a Three-Point Trend Line (3PTL)
How Tony processes a new Stock Doctor download
- S03E38 (starts near the 47 minute mark)
Tony’s thoughts on ethical investing
What Tony would do with extra cash
- S02E05 (13:30 mark)
Email from Tony on this topic (2022–04-19) — “From memory, I have done the following when I have had additional cash:”
- If <20 stocks in the portfolio, buy the top of the buy list. Assuming the additional cash is at least the size of a normal position.
- If 20 stocks in the portfolio, I will top up stocks that are now underweight because I bought them a while ago when the position sizes were smaller.
- Then, distribute evenly.
Using a mortgage to turbo-charge your investing portfolio
- Tony talks about this in S03E62 starting at the 27:20 mark.
Episodes where we do the checklist slowly
There are a few options, although unfortunately they are all a little old. They should still help, but the order of the columns in the checklist might be different to the current versions. First, there are a couple of videos here (the June 2020 video has Tony going through his version of the checklist — the full Stock Doctor download, copy/pasting the data into the checklist, etc.). If you’d rather listen to a podcast where we do a single stock, try these:
Demergers and inherited stocks
How do you work out the Rule 1 and 3PTL for stocks you inherit via a demerger? This is from episode #516, at the 43 minute mark, talking about BHP divesting its petro assets to WPL:
“I think we’ve covered demergers and this kind of thing, and mergers, before. There’s two levels of operating here. One is, they have provided enough information for us to go and do a pro forma on what the demerged BHP looks like and what the WPL new business looks like. And just in summary, BHP is divesting itself of its petroleum assets, is creating a new company which is going to be bought very quickly by Woodside Petroleum, and that money is going back to BHP. And then, that will be given to the shareholders as a special dividend which I think is going to be paid as Woodside Petroleum shares. All up, if you’re paying attention to the demerged BHP and the enhanced Woodside Petroleum there would be enough information in the pro forma detail to be able to go through and plug the numbers into our checklist and decide whether both were on the buy list — and Woodside Petroleum is on the buy list at the moment. So, it’s nice to see that BHP shareholders will be getting a stake in a company which is on our buy list. So, that’s one way to do it. That’s pretty hard to do — not hard to do, it’s time consuming to do. The way I normally approach these things is to use the three-point trendline. So, I’ll use sentiment to tell me what to do. So, the BHP share price will continue to have its three-point trend lines and rule 1s in place, it will pay us a special dividend — I’m not a shareholder, but it will pay the shareholders a special dividend. And we’ll treat that the way we treat dividends. So, we’ll add it back to the share price until we actually get the physical shares transferred to us, which, I’m not sure how long that will take, it will take a couple of days at least if not weeks, and then I’ll back it out again. So, the BHP three-point trend lines will stay in place and the rule 1s will stay in place. And Jeremy’s right, Woodside Petroleum will become a new share for us and its rule 1 will be the price it was when it became a new share to us as if we had bought it with a dividend. So, imagine that BHP paid a cash dividend and then we use that cash to buy Woodside Petroleum shares. So, that sets our rule 1, and then everything trades as normal from there. If BHP drops because of the sale, then if it breaches the line it’s a sell. If Woodside drops soon after the demerger and it goes below rule 1, it’s a sell — or, 10% below rule 1. So, if the rule one is 10% below the initial price for Woodside it becomes a sell. They all stick with their trend lines going forward.”
Tony
“Okay, so let me just repeat that back and see if I understood it. So, if you were an owner of BHP today, you would continue to use the three-point trendline to work out your sell line for BHP but you have to factor back the special dividend that you’ll be getting. With the WPL shares that you would get, you would use the price on the day that you get them to calculate your rule 1. Even though you’re not handing over money for it, you still have a theoretical rule 1 buy price — a theoretical buy price. And then, after you have them you will just use the three-point trendline of Woodside Petroleum going forwards to determine your sell line.”
Cameron [46:36]
“Correct, for both BHP and for Woodside, yeah.”
Tony [47:18]
Tony on borrowing to invest (from episode #807)
- Tony advocates for investing as soon as possible rather than waiting for a market crash, as waiting can be costly if the market continues to rise before a downturn. He suggests a measured approach to borrowing, keeping leverage within a safe range of 30% to 50% debt-to-equity. His preference is to avoid excessive leverage, similar to how he evaluates companies — he wouldn’t invest in businesses that are overly leveraged because financial downturns could put them at risk.
- To finance investments, Tony primarily used an interest-only overdraft loan secured against property, which provided flexibility. This allowed him to make lump-sum repayments when convenient, such as after selling shares or receiving an annual bonus. However, due to regulatory tightening, banks have become more restrictive on interest-only loans, seeing them as riskier than standard principal-and-interest loans. He acknowledges that while they carry benefits, they generally come with higher interest rates (around 1% more than standard loans).
- He does not recommend margin loans due to their higher interest rates and the risk of margin calls. Margin loans narrow the range of stocks an investor can buy, as they need to generate enough yield to cover interest costs. Additionally, margin calls can force an investor to sell shares when prices fall, which can be a major disadvantage. Tony only used a margin loan once when managing a large holding of Coles Myer shares during a takeover but quickly sold them.
- Currently, he uses a principal-and-interest loan with an offset account, which helps reduce interest expenses. He views this as a second-best option compared to his previous setup but still preferable to margin loans. His overall approach emphasizes limiting risk while using debt to enhance returns, ensuring that investments generate enough cash flow to service the debt.
